Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Will my diesel generator run on cooking oil?

I saw a fifth gear programme where they took cooking oil straight from the frying pan into a Mercedes, which ran for 200 miles with no problems, why?



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PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ANSWER IF YOU VALUE YOUR DIESEL GENERATOR'S FUTURE EXISTENCE!!!



IT CONTAINS ANSWERS BASED ON FACTS!! PLEASE DON'T SKIP IT WITHOUT READING IT!!!



First of all, cars whose engines changed to use cooking oil are called "grease cars"



.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasecar



Secondly, the producers of Fifth Gear might have taken oil "straight from the frying pan" and used it to run the car.... but I'll bet you that they didn't tell you of the "itsy-bitsy" tweaks they made to the Mercedes's engine. Here's the reason why...



Diesel engines work by atomizing diesel and air to a high compression rate. This compression rate creates the necessary heat for the ignition and combustion of the mixture. Cooking oil is 10-20 times more viscous (heavier) than diesel. Therefore, trying to atomize cooking oil through the same injector made for the diesel will be like trying to spray butter through the nozzle of a perfume sprayer.



This viscosity problem has to be overcome first. It has been discovered that vegetable oil will achieve viscosity similar to diesel at temperatures of 160 F and higher. Therefore, a mechanism will have to be installed that will heat up the oil to above 160 F before being atomized through the same injector.



Secondly, oil tends to polymerize (turn black and stick) when heated slowly from room temperature. The operating temperature of the oil is 180 F. It means that, if the system is at 180 F and oil "straight from the pan" is introduced to the system, it will not polymerize. Therefore, the engine must have some sort of system to keep the oil heated at a temperature of 180 F. This temperature will solve both the viscosity and polymerization problem.



The engineering change that is employed is the following: have two independent fuel systems of diesel and cooking oil!! The diesel system (the smaller one) will be used to heat the system to operating temperature. The heat is distributed to the oil by using the coolant system to transfer the necessary heat. (Clever, huh?). Once the operating temperature is reached, the operator changes the fuel system from diesel to cooking oil and keeps operating with cooking oil. Once the operator stops though, he/she will have to purge the system with diesel fuel. That is because if he/she fails to do so, it will result the cooking oil to cool inside the injector and return to its original viscosity, thus clogging it. Then, the engine will fail to start the next time the operator tries to, since the blockage prevents the diesel from being atomized. Therefore, it is imperative that the last step be performed every time the engine is to be turned off.



Therefore, a diesel engine must have to be altered to accomodate the necessary changes before being able to burn cooking oil (more detail is contained in the link below).



http://www.frybrid.com/svo.htm



Therefore, DO NOT USE COOKING OIL IN YOUR DIESEL GENERATOR BEFORE CONVERTING IT INTO A GREASECAR ENGINE!! I don't know about diesel generator prices where you live, but where I come from, it's definitely not cheap!!!



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Probaly
ii don't know about diesel but it works with petrol because cooking oil has similar combustion properties to petrol. try it. don't blame me if your car gets blown to smithereens though.
i think it will not run . if u want try it
it will doesn't work! do not try so.
bet it will , it will not start on cooking oil , once it is running and warm is when you can switch to oil ,



it works cause diesel and cooking oil have the near the same burn point
yes it will, it would be helpful to add a little ethanol or white spirit to thin it though or it will clog up the filters.



btw It WILL NOT WORK WITH PETROL ENGINES!!!!!!
Oil is which ever type is a burnable energy source. True you can put cooking oil straight into a vehicle to burn it, but if you are to do this on a regular basis then you must make the oil more suitable for the engine. If you type make you own diesel in to a search engine you will get lots of good web links explaining the full details.



Remember if you put anything in the fuel tank of a road vehicle you m,ust by law register with the VAT office to pay the duty on the fuel you are "making".
it probably will, but be warned, if you do choose to use cooking oil, you will probably void the warranty
It should do but it might need modification, for example the fuel pump might not be able to cope. I would suggest you talk to the manufacturer before trying. I would also suggest at first you try a mixture of mineral and biodeisel
Yes. One Australian man is converting a Diesel Mercedes-Benz car to run on cooking oil, not on the "biofuel" converted from cooking oil. He writes that he starts the engine on Diesel fuel and runs on cooking oil once it has warmed up a little. If he has to park the car for any length of time so that the engine cools, he switches back to Diesel so that the car starts easily again.



In some climates it may be necessary to heat the fuel tank and fuel lines to prevent the oil from solidifying.



Find the 'MB Spares %26amp; Service' site in Australia and search the attached forums where you will find more details.



Diesel engines were originally designed to run on any heavy oil but it was found most convenient to run them on something very like kerosene. This has the advantage that it has low viscosity and does not solidify in low temperatures. It was also cheaper than vegetable oils.



In principle it would be possible to run a Diesel engine on used motor oil that had been freed of dirt. The engine would have to be modified or designed for the job though.
y dont you try it and tell us how it goes
Cooking oil must go through a chemical process in order to be an acceptable alternative to regular diesel fuel... but in the end it is cheaper and works just as well.
Run? Probably--cause it's all oil. In the process to create gasoline from crude oil, other things just happen to form out of the process such as heating oil, diesel, cooking oil, etc etc. The only reason why diesel is more expensive in some places than gasoline is that there is a bigger commercial demand for it. Making diesel doesn't require a special processing plant, it just happens as a by-product.



Anyway, all oil contains energy that can be extracted from the solution by burning it.



Now that it's established oil WILL burn in a diesel engine, the next thing to consider is will the engine run well--meaning as efficiently as if proper fuel was used. [It will take more oil to move the vehicle 10 miles at 50mph than it would take diesel to do the same work.]



The answer: Not likely--and I wouldn't want the rebuild costs after I had done it to the engine.
Probably yes, but do not forget to filter it before using.
try it out but be sure that it will do some good damage to ur engine

Will my diesel generator run on cooking oil?

I saw a fifth gear programme where they took cooking oil straight from the frying pan into a Mercedes, which ran for 200 miles with no problems, why?



Will my diesel generator run on cooking oil?funny myspace





PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ANSWER IF YOU VALUE YOUR DIESEL GENERATOR'S FUTURE EXISTENCE!!!



IT CONTAINS ANSWERS BASED ON FACTS!! PLEASE DON'T SKIP IT WITHOUT READING IT!!!



First of all, cars whose engines changed to use cooking oil are called "grease cars"



.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasecar



Secondly, the producers of Fifth Gear might have taken oil "straight from the frying pan" and used it to run the car.... but I'll bet you that they didn't tell you of the "itsy-bitsy" tweaks they made to the Mercedes's engine. Here's the reason why...



Diesel engines work by atomizing diesel and air to a high compression rate. This compression rate creates the necessary heat for the ignition and combustion of the mixture. Cooking oil is 10-20 times more viscous (heavier) than diesel. Therefore, trying to atomize cooking oil through the same injector made for the diesel will be like trying to spray butter through the nozzle of a perfume sprayer.



This viscosity problem has to be overcome first. It has been discovered that vegetable oil will achieve viscosity similar to diesel at temperatures of 160 F and higher. Therefore, a mechanism will have to be installed that will heat up the oil to above 160 F before being atomized through the same injector.



Secondly, oil tends to polymerize (turn black and stick) when heated slowly from room temperature. The operating temperature of the oil is 180 F. It means that, if the system is at 180 F and oil "straight from the pan" is introduced to the system, it will not polymerize. Therefore, the engine must have some sort of system to keep the oil heated at a temperature of 180 F. This temperature will solve both the viscosity and polymerization problem.



The engineering change that is employed is the following: have two independent fuel systems of diesel and cooking oil!! The diesel system (the smaller one) will be used to heat the system to operating temperature. The heat is distributed to the oil by using the coolant system to transfer the necessary heat. (Clever, huh?). Once the operating temperature is reached, the operator changes the fuel system from diesel to cooking oil and keeps operating with cooking oil. Once the operator stops though, he/she will have to purge the system with diesel fuel. That is because if he/she fails to do so, it will result the cooking oil to cool inside the injector and return to its original viscosity, thus clogging it. Then, the engine will fail to start the next time the operator tries to, since the blockage prevents the diesel from being atomized. Therefore, it is imperative that the last step be performed every time the engine is to be turned off.



Therefore, a diesel engine must have to be altered to accomodate the necessary changes before being able to burn cooking oil (more detail is contained in the link below).



http://www.frybrid.com/svo.htm



Therefore, DO NOT USE COOKING OIL IN YOUR DIESEL GENERATOR BEFORE CONVERTING IT INTO A GREASECAR ENGINE!! I don't know about diesel generator prices where you live, but where I come from, it's definitely not cheap!!!



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Probaly
ii don't know about diesel but it works with petrol because cooking oil has similar combustion properties to petrol. try it. don't blame me if your car gets blown to smithereens though.
i think it will not run . if u want try it
it will doesn't work! do not try so.
bet it will , it will not start on cooking oil , once it is running and warm is when you can switch to oil ,



it works cause diesel and cooking oil have the near the same burn point
yes it will, it would be helpful to add a little ethanol or white spirit to thin it though or it will clog up the filters.



btw It WILL NOT WORK WITH PETROL ENGINES!!!!!!
Oil is which ever type is a burnable energy source. True you can put cooking oil straight into a vehicle to burn it, but if you are to do this on a regular basis then you must make the oil more suitable for the engine. If you type make you own diesel in to a search engine you will get lots of good web links explaining the full details.



Remember if you put anything in the fuel tank of a road vehicle you m,ust by law register with the VAT office to pay the duty on the fuel you are "making".
it probably will, but be warned, if you do choose to use cooking oil, you will probably void the warranty
It should do but it might need modification, for example the fuel pump might not be able to cope. I would suggest you talk to the manufacturer before trying. I would also suggest at first you try a mixture of mineral and biodeisel
Yes. One Australian man is converting a Diesel Mercedes-Benz car to run on cooking oil, not on the "biofuel" converted from cooking oil. He writes that he starts the engine on Diesel fuel and runs on cooking oil once it has warmed up a little. If he has to park the car for any length of time so that the engine cools, he switches back to Diesel so that the car starts easily again.



In some climates it may be necessary to heat the fuel tank and fuel lines to prevent the oil from solidifying.



Find the 'MB Spares %26amp; Service' site in Australia and search the attached forums where you will find more details.



Diesel engines were originally designed to run on any heavy oil but it was found most convenient to run them on something very like kerosene. This has the advantage that it has low viscosity and does not solidify in low temperatures. It was also cheaper than vegetable oils.



In principle it would be possible to run a Diesel engine on used motor oil that had been freed of dirt. The engine would have to be modified or designed for the job though.
y dont you try it and tell us how it goes
Cooking oil must go through a chemical process in order to be an acceptable alternative to regular diesel fuel... but in the end it is cheaper and works just as well.
Run? Probably--cause it's all oil. In the process to create gasoline from crude oil, other things just happen to form out of the process such as heating oil, diesel, cooking oil, etc etc. The only reason why diesel is more expensive in some places than gasoline is that there is a bigger commercial demand for it. Making diesel doesn't require a special processing plant, it just happens as a by-product.



Anyway, all oil contains energy that can be extracted from the solution by burning it.



Now that it's established oil WILL burn in a diesel engine, the next thing to consider is will the engine run well--meaning as efficiently as if proper fuel was used. [It will take more oil to move the vehicle 10 miles at 50mph than it would take diesel to do the same work.]



The answer: Not likely--and I wouldn't want the rebuild costs after I had done it to the engine.
Probably yes, but do not forget to filter it before using.
try it out but be sure that it will do some good damage to ur engine

Does anyone know a generator to make double background or know how to make one?

like these



http://www.static-layouts.com/x/layouts/...



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Here is a perfect site for what you want:



http://www.freecodesource.com/myspace-la...

What is the smaller size of a 220v a.c generator ?

thank u for answering my last question ... but can i know :



i need the smallest size of a 220v A.C generator.



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Here are a couple of the smallest that are available in the U.S. and U.K. You will have to purchase a larger U.S. model to get the 220vac (240vac) capability than you would the U.K. models which are all 220vac.



WK



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You should be more concerned about the price than the size. Even the cheapest goes for several hundred dollars.

I have a 35kw generator @ 480/277v just outside the foundation of a commercial bldg.?

Would it be considered a seperatly derived system?Also, the ats is mounted just inside the building, do I need MI cable?



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probably so, get the make and model and go to the manufacturers website.



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yes separately derived system. no, thhn is much cheaper, MI cable is easier to strip and scrap but you cant burn it off. lol

Torn between 1000w Generator & 2300w - for domestic use during power cut etc. Which is best.?

I want to be able to boil a kettle and run a TV and a light during power outages, Would 1000w be adequate and could it cope with a heater too during winter times. Also would it power a lawn mower occassionally, or would I be better off with a 2300w.



Torn between 1000w Generator %26amp; 2300w - for domestic use during power cut etc. Which is best.?girls myspace





Even the 2300 is cutting it close. Forget the 1000. (I am an electrician.)



:)



Torn between 1000w Generator %26amp; 2300w - for domestic use during power cut etc. Which is best.?skinny myspace myspace.com



Obviously, the more w, the more power -- but BE SURE TO CHECK out the transfer ability when the power comes back on! Some generators must be manually switched off and on, and if the power comes back when the generator is still on, you can blow the generator AND your electrical box!



Good luck!



:)
Bigger is better if you can afford it



2300w



Of course the proper way is to calculate your desired usage and buy the correct size.
Electric heat uses alot of current.Go big unless your going to power up your oil furnace with it.Just the element to boil water uses close to 1000w
Check with each appliance and add up the total watts.



100 watt light bulb (but you could use a compact fluorescent light that uses 18 watts)



Hot plate - I am guessing 750 watts (or a small microwave oven at 500 watts)



TV - depends on size, whether it is the conventional type with a glass tube, or an LCD, plasma or DLP. 200 watts and above.



You would be better off with a 2300 watt generator if you have the higher powered appliances.
At least with the 2300w, you can run a coffee pot.



Go with it.
A 20 amp circuit will handle 1600 watts,so buying a 2300 watt generator would be more than your circuit could handle. Electrical appliances such as tv,electric cooking stove ,convection ovens,toaster ovens electric fry pans,electric heaters all draw large amount of watts around 800 to 1200 watts by themselves,so running 2 or more at once would be taxing your circuit and possiable burned wires along with circuit breakers tripping constantly. I would contact your public service department they can give you better info and save you from a dangerous situation.
6500w generator would do nicely.
whatever you decide on, please inform your power company you are installing a generator.
USA The size of the generator you buy should be based on the amount of power you need. Add up the watts of all the appliances, lights, heaters, and anything else you might want to use if the power is out. Buy a generator that is at least 10% more than the load you added up. And check out the generator - many generators have two ratings - one rating , the higher one, is called a "peak" rating, which the generator can handle for a minute. The other rating is the continuous rating, which is the amount of power the generator can supply on a steady basis. You want the continuous rating to be at least 10% more than you need. Sometimes the power can be out for days - you might want to consider refrigeration and minimum heat in your calculations.
The top contributor Dave had good comments. I'll add to those.



If you think you might be out for a few days you might want to consider the refrigerator. Throwing away the entire contents can be expensive and smelly.



Anything with a motor will pull 3x it's normal power when starting. This is the peak power he was talking about. If you are going to have several things with motors (add the TV to that list) you should make sure that you have room for that surge.



As a point of comparison a hair dryer on high is about 1500w. That would be enough to kill the 1,000w unit all by itself. Your plug in hot plate or microwave will also be pulling a lot of power. Anything to do with heat and cold uses a lot of power.



You might want a few compact fluorescent lamps in the house for lighting. They give 100w of light for 18w of power.

How to create a div myspace layout?

I want to have one of these div myspace layouts but i dont find any that i like so i decided to do one myself. The problem is that i googled and the generators i found wont let me have my display pic box shown... any help??



I dont like these generators because they just placed a 2 or any number of boxes but i have to fill them in with what i want but i need something similar to the default myspace pic box, if you know what i mean



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use this



http://abrax.us/Katamari/OverlayGen.php



and then bring back your profileInfo section with this code



%26lt;style%26gt;



.profileInfo, .profileInfo * {visibility:visible;}



%26lt;/style%26gt;



note: dont remove the star from that code or it wont work



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if you want to create it the lazy way follow the dude that first answered if you want to create it manually here is a tutorial that helped me allot and it will help you too



http://youtube.com/watch?v=tAmTmO0ZWSY



have fun



and dont be sad

 
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